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The Democrat health care plan is so bad that they are threatening imprisonment and fines to get you to go along with it. Imagine that, they will put you away for not purchasing a product that you don’t want. This has got to be unconstitutional if anything is unconstitutional. If I refuse to by health care insurance then they will fine me or put me in jail? What has this country come to? jbranstetter04
@psychphan Hay psycho, fuck you ya liberal BASTARD How bout if the libs tell ya ta jump of a cliff I recon ya all will be the first in line. Ya fucken simple parasite
@psychphan
What moronic takes. Give socialism a chance?? First off
Auto Insurance is mandated by the States NOT the federal
government.
Secondly driving is a right not a privilege. The governement
does control who has the right to drive on public highways
and auto insurance mandates are at a minimu liability in case
you run over someone else.
The government (up until now) does not provide health insurance
why the hell are we not allowed to self insure? This is tyranny.
Everyone should want to purchase health insurance for their own good, obviously everyone is going to get sick sooner or later, why should I have to pay higher cost as a tax payer, when you have to go to the hospital as a charity case because one dosent want to be responsible for their own health care as a dead beat free loader driving up costs for everyone else, this is a no no !
psychphan, you don’t have to buy car insurance if you have enough money set aside that could pay if you injure or damage someones property. At lest that is Texas law. The car insurance policy and health insurance policy scenario doesn’t work. What it means is the poor will go to jail, and the middle class will pay for it.
@eifersucht2 You have two choices. It either means a flat tax, which you ruled out, or a progressive tax that cannot be selective in the manner which I previously stated. It would make no sense to take that quote that you gave to mean that progressive tax is legal but that it is illegal in the case of insured/uninsured ppl.
@kubush I know it doesn’t mean flat tax. But limiting the “certain people” to race or religion seems to be something you just made up. Doesn’t look like those are actually listed in the constitution. If it is a direct tax, as health care tax would be, it was to be apportioned. But our government arbitrarily got rid of that because it makes wealth redistribution impossible. But it’s difficult for me to convince you anything because you continue to get your arguments from thin air.
@eifersucht2 “uniform throughout the United States” doesnt mean a flat tax. It means that the federal govt can’t employ a tax only in certain states or certain people (as in race or religion). You don’t understand constitutional law.
@kubush
Article 1, section 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
This gives no authority for congress to selectively attack people for not buying a product or not being married. The (also unconstitutional) example of marriage doesn’t make health tax OK.
@eifersucht2 You are asserting that it is unconstitutional, so prove it. The govt isnt forcing to you buy anything. They have the power to tax, and if you dont have insurance you pay more in taxes, just as if you are not married you pay more in taxes. There is nothing unconstitutional about it.
@kubush how the hell is it constitutional? Don’t just say “It is constitutional. Period.” Give us your evidence you fucking twat. Nowhere I have read in the constitution does it say the federal government has the responsibility to force people to buy stuff.
i keep my shotgun by the door, try and arrest me
greetings from germany…we also have this tyrannical (national-)SOCIALIST system for over a year now…and I have only one advice for you americans:
don’t give up your firearms! don’t EVER give up your firearms!
god bless you all…god bless america…
I know I have no money for myself to take care of my health.,lettalone get a fucking job because nobody will give me one. But I also know that I have a S&W 5906 9mm that I have been cleaning.
@egomike88 “The american people did not want this bill” You LIE! You know how I know that? Because I am an American and I like this law. That disqualifies your entire statement!
@egomike88 It is consitutional. Period. Not one republican voted for it because all the republicans are far right wing sell outs that prefer the status quo as is apparent with their lack of action for the past 8+ years on health care reform. On another note: u considered it “rammed” through congress bcuz republicans didn’t agree? Funny how that works.
@kubush It was rammed through congress. Yes it had a majority favor because the majority was all democrates. Not one republican voted for the bill and yes it is unconstitutional.
@egomike88 It is unconstitutional. Ram it through what? Because last I check the majority in the House and the Senate were for the bill.
@kubush It doesn’t matter and i’m going to waste my time typing back and forth. The american people did not want this bill and it was forced threw no matter how many times it was shot down. The kept ramming it threw. The bill in itself is unconstitutional.
@jbranstetter04 You wont be put in prison for not getting insurance. Stop peddling this LIE!
@egomike88 The favorability of the public option was on several polls such as gallop. In the polls which you refer to, the “majority” is, in many cases, actually a plurality in which some that are against it, are against it because it doesn’t go far enough.
@kubush Anyway the polls i looked at were from aol news. The poll showed state by state disapproval of the health care plan. I don’t know where you got your poll stats but the majority disapproved the health care plan.
@egomike88 Maybe the polls that you look at are made up but the ones that I look at have statistically large enough samples to show what the opinion of the general public.
@kubush I Don’t know what polls you saw and another poll i saw said 89% of all polls are made up anyway. But if you look around anyway the approval rating for universal health care was 41-45 percent.
@psychphan your views are alittle off. Driving a car is your choice. You don’t have to drive unless you want to. And if you do decide you’d like to not drive a car there will be no fines against you, you just cannot drive. Where-as if you don’t want health insurance, to bad you have to or we will fine you. So as for your car insurance rant its debunked.
@richrodny A number of polls showed a majority supported a public option and there was also a poll that showed a majority of ppl are willing to pay more in taxes to get universal health care. Other polls showed that ppl want health care reform, so to say that it was taxation without representation is complete bull, especially considering that people voted for democrats and Obama on a universal health care platform.